Magdalen - Magdalene - Revision history

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 ::'''[[Madeleine - Madeline|Madeline]]''' or '''Madeleine''' (the French form) are current female [[forename]]s derived from Magdalen(e), along with Madelaine, Madelene, Madeline, Mad(e)lyn, Madalene, Madaline, Madoline, their [[petname]]s Maddie always nd Maddy and a German version Magda.
-::**The ‘’’magdalenian’’’ is a name given by archaeologists to a late Palaeolithic culture, named after the site where it was first identified, a shelter at La Madeleine in the Dordogne In France, in 1885, when it was first called the ‘age of the reindeer’, as many the typical artefacts are fashioned from reindeer bone and antler.  The use otf a [[Latin]] form of the French name reflects the academic habit of the time.
+::**The ‘’’magdalenian’’’ is a name given by archaeologists to a late Palaeolithic culture, named after the site where it was first identified, a shelter at La Madeleine in the Dordogne in France, in 1885, when it was first called the ‘age of the reindeer’, as many of the typical artefacts are fashioned from reindeer bone and antler.  The use of a [[Latin]] form of the French name reflects the academic habit of the time.
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 **In view of the history (or legend) of St Mary Magdalen(e), the word '''magdalen''' was used for many years as a [[common noun]] meaning 'reformed prostitute'. This [[noun]] can be written with or without the final  '-e'.
 ***In the 18th and 19th centuries, a common form of moral philanthropy was to provide hostels designed to take 'fallen women' (or sex workers) 'off the streets' (or away from their trade). Their trade was held in horror, and moral opprobrium: these hostels were known as '''magdalen houses''', '''magdalen hospitals'''  or .'''magdalen charities''', colloquially shortened to '''magdalens'''.
-*In [[British English]], both spellings are pronounced the same: usually as 'MAG-der-lin', with the stress on the first [[syllable]], which rhymes with 'bag', {{{{IPA|ˈmæg də<sup>r</sup> lɪn ''or'' -lən}}}}; some speakers emphasize the final syllable, 'mag-der-LEEN' ({{IPA|mæg də<sup>r</sup> ˈliːn }}), but this may be frowned on in some academic circles. It is NOT a phonetic representation of the second spelling.
+*In [[British English]], both spellings are pronounced the same: usually as 'MAG-der-lin', with the stress on the first [[syllable]], which rhymes with 'bag', {{IPA|ˈmæg də<sup>r</sup> lɪn ''or'' -lən}}: some speakers emphasize the final syllable, 'mag-der-LEEN' ({{IPA|mæg də<sup>r</sup> ˈliːn }}), but this may be frowned on in some academic circles. It should not be seen as a phonetic
 **In the past, there was a different pronunciation, 'MAUD-lin', {{{{IPA|ˈmɔːd lɪn ''or'' -lən}}).  This eventually became a separate word, maudlin, which has no religious meaning nowadays.  It is an adjective meaning 'characterized by tearful sentimentality' ([[OED]]).  It has come to mean this because [[Saint Mary Magdalene]] was believed to have been a repentant prostitute, and is often shown in pictures as weeping.  Maudlin was first a pronunciation of her name, then used to mean 'tearful', and finally merely sentimental.  (The stage of maudlin drunken-ness is that in which the drinker weeps.)

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 There are two [[college]]s called '''magdalen[e]''', one (with no terminal '-e') at [[Oxford University]], the other at Cambridge. Both are pronounced like 'maudlin'. The spelling distinction is jealously preserved. See also: [[Magdalen - Magdalene College]].
-::'''[[Madeleine - Madeline|Madeline]]''' or '''Madeleine''' (the French form) are current female [[forename]]s derived from Magdalen(e), along with Madelaine, Madelene, Madeline, Mad(e)lyn, Madalene, Madaline, Madoline, their [[petname]]s Maddie and Maddy and a German version Magda.
+::'''[[Madeleine - Madeline|Madeline]]''' or '''Madeleine''' (the French form) are current female [[forename]]s derived from Magdalen(e), along with Madelaine, Madelene, Madeline, Mad(e)lyn, Madalene, Madaline, Madoline, their [[petname]]s Maddie always nd Maddy and a German version Magda.
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 The [[saint]] called Mary, the friend of Jesus in the [[New Testament]], is distinguished from other [[Saint Mary]]s by the name of her home town, '''Magdala''' (in Galilee): St Mary '''Magdalene''', sometimes known simply as '''the Magdalen'''.
 **(The word '''M(/m)agdalen(e)''' can be seen written with or without a terminal '-e', '''Magdalen''' or '''Magdalene'''.  The 2nd edition of [[OED]] gives it as '''Magdalen(e)''', though the 3rd (on-line) edition seems to have settled on a preference for '''Magdalen''', without the final silent '-e'. AWE's advice is to decide on one (the one with which you feel most comfortable), and then use it '''consistently'''.) There is an [[etymology|etymological]] clue in the original Greek Μαγδαληνη ('magdalēnē'), which shows that both '-e-'s were originally [[long vowel]]s, and perhaps should be written in English. But word-formation pays little attention to such niceties.
-**In view of the history (or legend) of St Mary Magdalen(e), the word '''magdalen''' was used for many years as a [[common noun]] meaning 'reformed prostitute'. This ;;noun]] can be written with or without the final  '-e'.
+**In view of the history (or legend) of St Mary Magdalen(e), the word '''magdalen''' was used for many years as a [[common noun]] meaning 'reformed prostitute'. This [[noun]] can be written with or without the final  '-e'.
 ***In the 18th and 19th centuries, a common form of moral philanthropy was to provide hostels designed to take 'fallen women' (or sex workers) 'off the streets' (or away from their trade). Their trade was held in horror, and moral opprobrium: these hostels were known as '''magdalen houses''', '''magdalen hospitals'''  or .'''magdalen charities''', colloquially shortened to '''magdalens'''.
 *In [[British English]], both spellings are pronounced the same: usually as 'MAG-der-lin', with the stress on the first [[syllable]], which rhymes with 'bag', {{{{IPA|ˈmæg də<sup>r</sup> lɪn ''or'' -lən}}}}; some speakers emphasize the final syllable, 'mag-der-LEEN' ({{IPA|mæg də<sup>r</sup> ˈliːn }}), but this may be frowned on in some academic circles. It is NOT a phonetic representation of the second spelling.

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 The [[saint]] called Mary, the friend of Jesus in the [[New Testament]], is distinguished from other [[Saint Mary]]s by the name of her home town, '''Magdala''' (in Galilee): St Mary '''Magdalene''', sometimes known simply as '''the Magdalen'''.
 **(The word '''M(/m)agdalen(e)''' can be seen written with or without a terminal '-e', '''Magdalen''' or '''Magdalene'''.  The 2nd edition of [[OED]] gives it as '''Magdalen(e)''', though the 3rd (on-line) edition seems to have settled on a preference for '''Magdalen''', without the final silent '-e'. AWE's advice is to decide on one (the one with which you feel most comfortable), and then use it '''consistently'''.) There is an [[etymology|etymological]] clue in the original Greek Μαγδαληνη ('magdalēnē'), which shows that both '-e-'s were originally [[long vowel]]s, and perhaps should be written in English. But word-formation pays little attention to such niceties.
-**In view of the history (or legend) of St Mary Magdalen(e), the word '''magdalen''' was used for many years as a [[common noun]] meaning 'reformed prostitute'. This to can be written with or without the final  '-e'.
+**In view of the history (or legend) of St Mary Magdalen(e), the word '''magdalen''' was used for many years as a [[common noun]] meaning 'reformed prostitute'. This ;;noun]] can be written with or without the final  '-e'.
 ***In the 18th and 19th centuries, a common form of moral philanthropy was to provide hostels designed to take 'fallen women' (or sex workers) 'off the streets' (or away from their trade). Their trade was held in horror, and moral opprobrium: these hostels were known as '''magdalen houses''', '''magdalen hospitals'''  or .'''magdalen charities''', colloquially shortened to '''magdalens'''.
 *In [[British English]], both spellings are pronounced the same: usually as 'MAG-der-lin', with the stress on the first [[syllable]], which rhymes with 'bag', {{{{IPA|ˈmæg də<sup>r</sup> lɪn ''or'' -lən}}}}; some speakers emphasize the final syllable, 'mag-der-LEEN' ({{IPA|mæg də<sup>r</sup> ˈliːn }}), but this may be frowned on in some academic circles. It is NOT a phonetic representation of the second spelling.

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 **In the past, there was a different pronunciation, â€˜MAUD-linâ€™, {{{{IPA|ËˆmÉ”Ë dlÉªn ''or'' É™n}}.  This eventually became a separate word, maudlin, which has no religious meaning nowadays.  It is an adjective meaning â€˜characterised by tearful sentimentalityâ€™ ([[OED]]).  It has come to mean this because [[Saint Mary Magdalene]] was believed to have been a repentant prostitute, and is often shown in pictures as weeping.  Maudlin was first a pronunciation of her name, then used to mean â€˜tearfulâ€™, and finally merely sentimental.  (The stage of maudlin drunken-ness is that in which the drinker weeps.) The two [[college]]s, one (with no terminal '-e') at [[Oxford University]], the other at Cambridge, are both pronounced like 'maudlin - see also: [[Magdalen - Magdalene College]].
-::'''Madeline''' or '''Madeleine''' (the French form) are current female [[forename]]s derived from Magdalen(e), along with Madelaine, Madelene, Madeline, Mad(e)lyn, Madalene, Madaline, Madoline, their [[petname]]s Maddie and Maddy and a German version Magda.
+::'''[[Madeleine - Madeline|Madeline]]''' or '''Madeleine''' (the French form) are current female [[forename]]s derived from Magdalen(e), along with Madelaine, Madelene, Madeline, Mad(e)lyn, Madalene, Madaline, Madoline, their [[petname]]s Maddie and Maddy and a German version Magda.
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 The [[saint]] called Mary, the friend of Jesus in the [[New Testament]], is distinguished from other [[Saint Mary]]s by the name of her home town, '''Magdala''' (in Galilee).  St Mary '''Magdalene''']], sometimes known simply as '''the Magdalen'''.
-**(The word '''M(/m)agdalen(e)''' can be seen written with or without a terminal '-e', '''Magdalen''' or '''Magdalene'''.  The 2nd edition of [[OED]] gives it as '''magdalen(e)''', though the 3rd (on-line) seems to have settled on a preference for '''magdalen''', with the final silent '-e'. AWE's advice is to decide on one (the one with which you feel most comfortable), and then use it '''consistently'''.)
+**(The word '''M(/m)agdalen(e)''' can be seen written with or without a terminal '-e', '''Magdalen''' or '''Magdalene'''.  The 2nd edition of [[OED]] gives it as ' ''Magdalen(e)''', though the 3rd (on-line) edition seems to have settled on a preference for '''Magdalen''', without the final silent '-e'. AWE's advice is to decide on one (the one with which you feel most comfortable), and then use it '''consistently'''.)
-**In view of the history (or legend) of St Mary Magdalen(e), the word '''magdalen''' was used for many years as a [[common noun]] meaning 'reformed prostitute'.
+**In view of the history (or legend) of St Mary Magdalen(e), the word '''magdalen''' was used for many years as a [[common noun]] meaning 'reformed prostitute'. This to can be written with or without the final  '-e'.
-***In the 18th and 19th centuries, a common form of moral philanthropy was to provide hostels designed to take 'fallen women' (or sex workers) 'off the streets' (or away from their trade, which was held in horror: these were known as '''magdalen houses''', '''magdalen hospitals'''  or .'''magdalen charities''', colloquially shortened to '''magdalens'''.
+***In the 18th and 19th centuries, a common form of moral philanthropy was to provide hostels designed to take 'fallen women' (or sex workers) 'off the streets' (or away from their trade, which was held in horror, ancd moraal opprobrium: these hostels were known as '''magdalen houses''', '''magdalen hospitals'''  or .'''magdalen charities''', colloquially shortened to '''magdalens'''.
 *In [[British English]], both spellings are pronounced the same: usually as 'MAG-der-lin', with the stress on the first [[syllable]], which rhymes with 'bag', {{{{IPA|ËˆmÃ¦g dÉ™ lÉªn ''or'' lÉ™n}}}}; some speakers emphasize the final syllable, 'mag-der-LEEN' ({{IPA|mÃ¦g dÉ™ ËˆliËn}}), but this may be frowned on in some academic circles. It is NOT a phonetic representation of the second spelling.
 **In the past, there was a different pronunciation, â€˜MAUD-linâ€™, {{{{IPA|ËˆmÉ”Ë dlÉªn ''or'' É™n}}.  This eventually became a separate word, maudlin, which has no religious meaning nowadays.  It is an adjective meaning â€˜characterised by tearful sentimentalityâ€™ ([[OED]]).  It has come to mean this because [[Saint Mary Magdalene]] was believed to have been a repentant prostitute, and is often shown in pictures as weeping.  Maudlin was first a pronunciation of her name, then used to mean â€˜tearfulâ€™, and finally merely sentimental.  (The stage of maudlin drunken-ness is that in which the drinker weeps.) The two [[college]]s, one (with no terminal '-e') at [[Oxford University]], the other at Cambridge, are both pronounced like 'maudlin - see also: [[Magdalen - Magdalene College]].